Lessons that Australia Should Learn from Conflict in Ukraine


In this radio interview with our colleague John Blackburn, he discusses what Ukraine demonstrates to Australians as they work on a resilience-based defense effort.

This March 5, 2022 interview was conducted on the show Australia Overnight.

John Blackburn AO, Air Vice-Marshal (Ret’d) / Chairman of the Institute for Integrated Economic Research – Australia, chats  about what would happen to Australia if we were to find ourselves in the same situation as Ukraine.

Despite the courage of the Ukrainian people, it is clear that they are outmanned and outgunned against the Russians. Many experts believe that would Australia find itself in the same situation. John talks to Michael about why it’s so critical that Australia become more self-sufficient and not so reliant on foreign supplies and aid.